I want to mention a few observations I had as the 42nd President’s Cup, which I was scouting through this last Monday, heads toward the final today (1 p.m. KBS for those living in Korea). For the most part Koreans don’t care about high school baseball anymore, but this wasn’t always the case. Many of the baseball schools were founded during the Japanese colonial period and have over 100-year histories. Kyeongi High School, which is based in Seoul and advanced to the final yesterday, was founded in 1905.
According to the tournament Web site approximately 1,500 students in South Korea attend what are essentially “baseball high schools.” There are similarly styled schools in Japan, but the number of players exceeds 5,000. During the past five years a number of these baseball schools in Korea have closed.
Every game each team sends two junior players to chart pitches behind home plate. I asked one about his school’s curriculum. He told me, after some hesitation, that the students have what amounts to light study in the morning. This is followed by lunch and by 1 p.m. the students are on the baseball field. The team’s don’t play regular schedules with standings or regional divisions, rather, the teams focus on several tournaments, like the President’s Cup, and the regional qualifying rounds that proceed. During tournaments the students do not attend class.
Until the Korean professional league was founded in the early 1980s, high school baseball was the most popular form of baseball in Korea. I get the impression, this from people I talk to on the street — cab drivers, a few coaches and fans — that it was vastly more popular than it is today. For whatever reason college baseball is not popular amongst Koreans and while there were semipro, or, industrial leagues, prior to the launch of the KBO, but high school baseball was where it was at.
The games I saw were sparsely attended. Koreans turn up for baseball games less during the work week, and most often on Sundays, the only day pretty much everyone has off. Still, I was surprised how few people were at the games I saw. Each team has a group of parents who occupy a section of seats behind the dugout of their kid’s team. Depending on the size and location of the school, I’d say these sections range anywhere from 10-100 people. Naturally the Seoul schools (Mokdong Stadium is the home of the KBO’s Woori Heroes) have more parents in attendance, whereas the school from Changwon (located in the south, about an hour from Busan) had just a handful of parents watching.
Outside of parents the second largest group in attendance are scouts. The scouts for the Korean pro teams have a gated section behind home plate with tables and cushion chairs, while us MLB types sit in the regular seats that fan out around the Korean scout section. During various intervals over the weekend I’d guess there were as many as 30 scouts watching a single game.
The third largest group would be the older Korean men, who probably no longer work during the day, and were around when Korean high school baseball was at its peak in popularity. A number of these guys sit in the shade and some follow pitch by pitch with a scoresheet. Others stumble around with soju bottles in their jacket pocket. I think all of them smoke.
Thursday’s quarterfinal pitted Gwangju Il, the baseball factory that produced Seo Jae-woong, Choi Hee-seop and Kim Byung-hyun, against Baemyeon High School. The game went 15 innings and was still tied 1-1 when it was suspended at 11 p.m. The game was resumed at 2 p.m. Friday and was won by Baemyeon in 19 innings. Another quarterfinal followed, but then Baemyeon was back on the field at 6 p.m. to play Kyunggi High School. Baemyeon lost 4-1.
Kyunggi HS will now play Duksoo High School in the final. Duksoo are another powerhouse from Seoul and have won the President’s Cup several times. The team has a pitcher named Sung Yeong-hoon, who can hit 95 mph on the radar gun, and probably disappointed a handful of MLB scouts when he opted to stay in Korea and sign with Doosan for signing bonus worth a reported $550,000. The starting salary for rookies in the KBO is around $20,000 US per year. From everything I’ve witnessed first-hand signing bonuses reported in Korean newspapers are exaggerated. The point I’m making here is that this kid likely passed up a lot of money to remain in Korea. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
In propelling Duksoo into the final Sung pitched 8 1/3 innings of no run, no hit baseball. His team beat Seoul High School, another powerhouse school from the capital.
Seoul HS has a large contingent of parents who bring a full sound system to games. They blast music at sometimes deafening levels, and pass a mic around to (I assume) fathers who scream and lead cheers. It’s fucking obnoxious, not to mention extremely rude. It should be banned immediately. I’m not talking a little boom box here, I’m talking giant speakers — the kind you can find on concert stages. It’s a clear and unfair advantage. The Seoul HS team is good anyway, but the speakers drown out the cheers from the parents of the opposing team, many of whom (as was the case on Sunday) have come from places several hours away. I’m glad they lost to Duksoo.
What really stood out to me at the President’s Cup was the lack of students in attendance. I’ve seen pictures of high school baseball games in Japan — students in tears as their school is eliminated at Koshien , or conversely, doing large, coordinated group cheers when their team is batting. I bet I saw less than 25 high school students total during the four days (about 15 games) I attended the President’s Cup.
By my own little baseball in Korea barometer, the popularity of the game has sunk steadily since I arrived nearly five years ago. My theory is that it has to do with a combination of following three things (in no particular order):
1. A sometimes subtle (often unsubtle) dislike of many things American (I’m avoiding calling it anti-Americanism) spawning from the U.S.’s invasion of Iraq.
2. The lack of a successful (by Korean standards) Korean player in MLB.
3. The popularity of soccer, which peaked in the years following Korea co-hosting the World Cup in 2002.
I actually think all three of these reasons are becoming less of a factor and that baseball will slowly regain its popularity amongst Koreans. Soccer has peaked. The national team is no longer as good as it was in 2002 and the cup won’t be coming here again anytime soon. Politically the country is moving back toward the right with the election of Lee Myung-bak. Once you resume importing American meat can baseball be far behind?
I suppose I’m becoming directly responsible for number two. I believe the lack of an impact Korean player in the majors is more of an aberration than a trend. The sudden demise of Choi, Kim BK and Seo is still surprising, as in all three cases their downturns came when they entered their mid-to-late 20s. Judging from the girth he’s assumed since his return, my guess is that Choi simply missed Korean food. In the cases of Kim and Seo, injuries may have played a role.
And bet your bottom won, injuries will continue to play a role. Arguably the current Top 3 Korean prospects currently playing in America have all had recent arm problems. Last week, Rhee Dae-eun, a Cubs pitching prospect detailed on this site, was recently put on the seven day DLwith arm soreness. Jung Young-il, a Korean pitcher signed by the Angels, was held out of last year’s Arizona Fall League due to arm troubles, and last summer Choo Shin-soo, who in spring 2007 was on the fringe of starting in the outfield for the Indians, was shut down and eventually had Tommy John surgery. Choo is an outfielder, but was a top high school pitcher in Busan. He’s slated to return soon.
Unforeseen injuries aside, I think we’ll see another major impact Korean player arrive on the MLB scene within the next five years. Once that happens, along with the continued halting of the other two reasons mentioned above, the country’s love of baseball, which peaked in the late 90s with the success of Park Chan-ho, will likely resume.

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1 Baseball » Dribbler to Short: Korean High School Baseball // May 3, 2008 at 11:44 am
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2 baekgom84 // May 3, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Great post!
While I love attending games here in Korea, I do regret that baseball isn’t as passionately supported as sports back home (I’m from Australia). I live in Incheon now and despite the domiance of SK, it’s rare that you see people sporting a Wyverns cap or jacket when walking down the street. I get the impression that a lot of the people who attend games are there either on a family outing or a date, and perhaps not because they are excited about the prospect of a great pitching duel.
Soccer is without a doubt the number one sport here, and definitely the sport that generates the most passion, though it will be interesting to see what will happen should Park Ji-sung leave Manchester United for a less glamorous club.
I’d say for sure that baseball is the number one spectator sport in Korea when you consider the often sparse attendances at K-League games. Let’s hope that the Koreans have a good run at the Olympics and the WBC to boost the profile a bit.
3 Westbaystars // May 3, 2008 at 10:50 pm
The idea that baseball (amateur and professional) is losing out to soccer or MLB is one that I hear in Japan all the time. I contend that it’s something completely different. It’s social.
What are the biggest differences in social forces now compared to much of baseball’s heyday of the mid 20th century? Speaking for Japan, the culture has morphed into more of a me-centric culture, where people prefer to be entertained by their cell phones (personal entertainment) than to actually go out and have a good time with others as a group. The entertainment choices now are so numerous compared to 20 years ago.
A Brazilian friend of mine commented back in the early ’90s that the major problem with Japanese holidays (like Golden Week which is now upon us) is that the middle class is too large. There is no exclusive set who go to places that others dream about, everyone can. So everywhere you go it’s crowded. With so many popular destinations now that are perceived as being the in place to be, sporting events have kind of fallen off the map - a place where one’s father would have gone. (Childrens Day (May 5) still sells out at most ball parks, though.)
High school baseball in Japan has been hit by this generation’s lack of an attention span. There have been a number of highlights that have really caught peoples’ eye, though. Matsuzaka’s 250 pitch quarter final in 1998 against PL Gakuin (a baseball player factory) drew the country back to Koshien for the semi-finals and finals. Darvish had the country spell bound until his team was eliminated. Yu-chan (the Handkerchief Prince) vs. Ma-kun a couple of summers ago did it again.
The unfortunate thing is, it’s just a few individuals that are bring hyped up, often just at the end of the tournaments. (Those hyped up before the tournaments tend to disappear in the first couple of rounds.)
One of the reasons that the Japanese national tournaments have so many students is because the tournaments are held during vacations - Spring break between school years in March/April and Summer vacation during August. Schools sponsor bus trips for students, families, and others in the community for 1-day trips to Koshien. (That is, the bus leaves at 3:00 am, arrives at Koshien a couple hours before the scheduled game, departs soon after the game, and one gets home late at night the same day.)
Do you know, is nothing like that offered there? Is there simply no interest in the community? (Alumni also make up a good portion of the bus trips.)
I’m afraid that I’m a little all over the place with this one. But as Paul Grahm says, a good essay should explore many thoughts.
4 Shinsano // May 4, 2008 at 11:01 am
Thanks for the comments guys. To answer your last queston Westbay-san, I did see some organized bus trips, but I think that’s what the parents were coming in on. I’m guessing students could also come if they wanted to.
I totally agree with the idea that there are simply more choices…the KBO being the most obvious. People might like baseball less because their more “me first” and have short attention spans, but nothing will cure that like a big dose of national success. If Wang were Korean people would go nuts.
5 Gary Garland // May 5, 2008 at 1:12 pm
I wonder. I remember seeing footage from a tv station in Okinawa a couple years back where that prefecture’s representative to the Koshien Tournament basically turned its home area into a ghost town while the game was going on because inhabitants had either traveled to the tourney or they had gathered at a couple of large halls to watch it with each other on large tv screens. Just about everything was closed and the streets empty.
For those of you who live in Korea, think of how big towns seem to just empty out during the Lunar New Year, when everybody goes back to the sticks to visit their parents and grandparents. When I lived in Taejon, it was like the rapture had happened, it was that quiet despite it being a city of one million souls.
I think the biggest problems schoolboy baseball faces in Japan are fewer potential players being born due to a below replacement level birthrate and some of the talent being skimmed off by soccer, just as how basketball and the NFL have eroded the available talent pool for American born MLB players.
6 Korea Beat // May 5, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Are there still semi-pro or minor leagues in Korea? That would probably be another good post. This was a great one.
7 Westbaystars // May 5, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Despite the declining birth rate, high school baseball has recently seen a slight surge in the number of teams in Japan. I read earlier this year (or was it last summer?) that the number of high schools participating in the qualifying tournaments has been on the increase.
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