Interesting news bit posted by the new Japanese baseball blog NPB Tracker, reporting that the Hanshin Tigers are scouting Lotte’s Lee Dae-ho. This despite the fact that Lee doesn’t fulfill his service requirement for another three years.
I was thinking about the idea — in my mind Lee is the best pure hitter in Korea. He could probably hit in MLB, but I don’t think his glove is MLB capable. I also don’t think any team would sign him as a DH. Japan could be a good option. But then it got me thinking about Kim Dong-ju, who will free to go play wherever he watns, and is actually a similar-style hitter as Lee Dae-ho. He tried to make a late run at playing in Japan this past off-season when he felt Doosan was lowballing him. Kim is not quite an MLB hitter — he has less power than Lee and no major league team needs a decent, but not outstanding thirdbaseman who’s going to hit 5 to 10 HRs a year.
Low and behold, tonight I find an article talking about how Hanshin is scouting BOTH Lee Dae-ho and Kim Dong-ju. Hmm.
I didn’t do any kind of KBO ranking or metrics discussion this week, so how about a look at the career numbers of Kim Dong-ju and Lee Dae-ho?
| 2001 |
6 |
8 |
0 |
4 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
1 |
0 |
1 |
2 |
0.5 |
0.556 |
0.5 |
1.056 |
| 2002 |
74 |
255 |
27 |
71 |
19 |
0 |
8 |
32 |
1 |
19 |
66 |
0.278 |
0.345 |
0.447 |
0.792 |
| 2003 |
54 |
152 |
8 |
37 |
6 |
0 |
4 |
13 |
0 |
13 |
37 |
0.243 |
0.327 |
0.362 |
0.689 |
| 2004 |
132 |
444 |
52 |
110 |
26 |
0 |
20 |
68 |
4 |
38 |
78 |
0.248 |
0.331 |
0.441 |
0.772 |
| 2005 |
126 |
447 |
53 |
119 |
16 |
2 |
21 |
80 |
1 |
47 |
76 |
0.266 |
0.354 |
0.452 |
0.805 |
| 2006 |
122 |
443 |
71 |
149 |
26 |
0 |
26 |
88 |
0 |
39 |
55 |
0.336 |
0.409 |
0.571 |
0.98 |
| 2007 |
121 |
415 |
79 |
139 |
21 |
1 |
29 |
87 |
1 |
81 |
55 |
0.335 |
0.453 |
0.6 |
1.053 |
| 2008 |
68 |
244 |
46 |
77 |
12 |
0 |
11 |
56 |
0 |
41 |
34 |
0.316 |
0.424 |
0.5 |
0.924 |
| Total |
703 |
2408 |
336 |
706 |
126 |
3 |
119 |
425 |
7 |
279 |
403 |
0.293 |
0.383 |
0.496 |
0.88 |
That’s Lee Dae-ho. Great patience, power, lots of line drives — as I said, the best pure hitter in the KBO. If he were to go to Hanshin it would leave such a hole in the Lotte Giants lineup the team would be better off just cancelling the 2009 season.
Thing is, the Giants owners are notoriously cheap, so if an NPB team was willing to pay enough it could happen. I tend to think players have every right to try and make as much money as they can, but I don’t always get the sense NPB fans feel the same…at least when their favorite players are heading to the U.S. I’m assuming they’d maintain a similar opinion concerning the idea of Korea’s best hitter coming to Japan. How ironic it would be if Korea’s best player signed with a Japanese team the same year as the NBP’s best player jumped to MLB?
Maybe I’m getting ahead of myself. Actually, if I had to bet on one — I’d bet on the latter happening for 2009. But I digress. Kim Dong-ju will be looking to sign with a Japanese team this offseason. What have we got here?
| 1998 |
125 |
457 |
69 |
121 |
21 |
1 |
24 |
89 |
4 |
29 |
87 |
0.265 |
0.31 |
0.473 |
0.782 |
| 1999 |
114 |
399 |
62 |
128 |
25 |
3 |
22 |
84 |
2 |
41 |
53 |
0.321 |
0.394 |
0.564 |
0.958 |
| 2000 |
127 |
469 |
78 |
159 |
29 |
1 |
31 |
106 |
5 |
51 |
65 |
0.339 |
0.414 |
0.603 |
1.017 |
| 2001 |
103 |
364 |
49 |
118 |
18 |
0 |
18 |
62 |
2 |
47 |
57 |
0.324 |
0.401 |
0.522 |
0.923 |
| 2002 |
120 |
415 |
63 |
132 |
21 |
0 |
26 |
79 |
1 |
52 |
61 |
0.318 |
0.405 |
0.557 |
0.961 |
| 2003 |
118 |
401 |
61 |
137 |
23 |
2 |
23 |
89 |
3 |
79 |
53 |
0.342 |
0.45 |
0.581 |
1.031 |
| 2004 |
124 |
430 |
72 |
123 |
19 |
1 |
19 |
76 |
4 |
69 |
67 |
0.286 |
0.402 |
0.467 |
0.87 |
| 2005 |
94 |
268 |
51 |
81 |
13 |
1 |
10 |
50 |
1 |
57 |
38 |
0.302 |
0.444 |
0.47 |
0.914 |
| 2007 |
119 |
382 |
68 |
123 |
24 |
0 |
19 |
78 |
11 |
83 |
55 |
0.322 |
0.457 |
0.534 |
0.991 |
| 2008 |
63 |
204 |
35 |
62 |
5 |
2 |
13 |
58 |
2 |
41 |
30 |
0.304 |
0.432 |
0.539 |
0.972 |
| total |
1150 |
3929 |
627 |
1219 |
205 |
11 |
209 |
787 |
35 |
572 |
583 |
0.31 |
0.407 |
0.528 |
0.935 |
Notice Kim Dong-ju’s career OBP and OPSs are actually higher than Lee Dae-ho’s. Less power than Dae-ho, but every bit the hitter and he’s done it over his entire career. Check out his walk to strikeout ratios as time has gone on. I really like both these guys.
Kim Dong-ju is also a better fielder, and — I don’t like to say things like this — but he’s more a firely competitor. Not that Dae-ho isn’t, but Kim Dong-ju fairly routinely gets into shoving matches and stare downs. He’s a — oh, here I go again — gamer. Really solid #2 or 3 hitter. He’s batting mostly cleanup this year for Doosan, and it’s working fine. But he’s a natural #2 hitter.
Interesting ideas being floated around.
6 responses so far ↓
1 baekgom84 // Jun 27, 2008 at 12:21 am
Kim Dong-ju sure is a fiery character. I thought he was going to punch someone in the Korea Series last year. But I think Lee Dae-ho has more charisma. Not that it counts for that much in terms of winning games, but it might count towards selling jerseys, which is an all-too significant part of professional sports these days.
It would be interesting to see the reaction in Korea if one or both of these guys went to Hanshin. I see a lot of kids here sporting Yomiuri gear which is obviously attributed to the presence of Lee Seung-yeop. But following his well-documented decline, would the presence of a Lee Dae-ho or Kim Dong-ju sway these fans? Would they trade in their Giants jerseys for a Tigers jersey?
2 DannP // Jun 27, 2008 at 12:46 am
“How ironic it would be if Korea’s best player signed with a Japanese team the same year as the NBP’s best player jumped to MLB?
Maybe I’m getting ahead of myself. Actually, if I had to bet on one – I’d bet on the latter happening for 2009″
You sure don’t get tired of throwing this idea around, do you? Give it up!
3 NPB Tracker › NPB Bullet Points // Jun 27, 2008 at 12:51 am
[...] Corrected spelling of Lee Dae-Ho. Thanks East Windup Chroricle. This was written by Patrick. Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008, at 8:51 pm. Filed under npb. [...]
4 Shinsano // Jun 27, 2008 at 10:22 am
Yeah, Baekgom, I think that was Choi Byong-ryong from SK, who hit Kim with a pitch but then didn’t tip his cap in appology. The benches cleared.
DannP- It’s all in good fun. Hot stoving is one of the reasons baseball blogs exist, don’t you think?
5 DannP // Jun 27, 2008 at 3:34 pm
To a point. I have not heard one thing from Darvish or Nippon Ham that makes me think he’s going to be playing in major league baseball next year. Everything I have read is speculation on blogs and/or articles by mainstream publications that are writing some kind of Intro to Darvish that includes some kind of “he’s got his eye on MLB” junk.
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